Bad Apple, the Rise of the A.I. Empire and Italian Brain Rot


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Hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton

Produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones

Edited by Matt Collette

Engineered by Chris Wood

Original music by Dan PowellElisheba Ittoop and Diane Wong

This week, iPhone users started to feel the impact of a stern court order against Apple that requires the company to stop collecting a commission on some app sales. We break down what this means for apps like Kindle and Spotify and why the judge suggested that Apple and a top executive should be investigated for criminal contempt. Then, Karen Hao joins us to discuss her new book about OpenAI and explain why she believes the benefits of using the company’s tools do not outweigh the moral costs. And finally, Casey introduces Kevin to a strange new universe of A.I. slop that’s racking up millions of likes on TikTok.

Guest:

  • Karen Hao, Author of “Empire of AI”

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